Will this meet my needs?

onekid · #1 (**permalink**) 02-25-2007, 10:02 PM

ok... im getting allo of this (not including my case) and wouldnt mind some help to find out if this will be a good combination.

580W Sunbeam PSU 24p
power suply

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=ADO-42CUBX
cpu

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=LH-18A1PBK
dvd burner

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=D2-1G667EL
ram(im getting 3 of these)

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=HD-0A32722
hard drive(im adding another 160g and one more 80g hard drive)

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=XFX-71GS25
video card

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-KA3-MVP
mother board

can someone tell me if this is good?
Or is there anything i should change?

guyladouche · #2 (**permalink**) 02-25-2007, 11:48 PM

Hi. I have two suggestions. First, save yourself some money and dump the third piece of RAM. 2GB is pretty much all you'll ever need from now until...well...quite some time. Might as well save yourself some money. And if it turns out that you do need it down the road, then you can just buy more. But to point out--Putting a third piece of RAM in a motherboard with 4 memory slots and two memory controllers disables the dual-channel memory mode. You'd need 2 or 4 pieces of matched RAM to properly operate it in dual-channel mode--which is very much worth it.

Speaking of gaming--I would steer clear of that video card, and any Nvidia video card that uses Turbocache technology (and any ATI card that uses Hypermemory). This is a very, very poor way of rendering graphics. If you want to do any gaming at any sort of good detail or resolution at 1024x768 or higher, you'll need a real video card. Relying on system memory for rendering graphics is not a good way to go. It leads to lots of lag in games, and very low framerates. Howver, that card has a good amount of on-board RAM (though it's slower DDR2 as compared to GDDR4 that is curently out right now), so if you do choose to stick with that card, I'd recommend disabling the Turbocache.

It seems as if everything is compatible. I'm not sure how to answer whether it'll suit your needs because you didn't mention what those needs are. If it's gaming, then probably not--due to the video card. If it's general use, then definitely. That system won't be nearly as fast as a Core 2 Duo system, but it's a decent system nonetheless.

onekid · #3 (**permalink**) 02-26-2007, 01:28 AM

ok so you sugest a core 2 duo? any sugestions as to wich one to get? a link would help a lot!

and for my budget(700-750$) for the whole system, do you sugest i get a core 2 duo instead?

guyladouche · #4 (**permalink**) 02-26-2007, 02:08 AM

Well, without knowing what you want to do, I'm not sure. If all you're going to be doing is word processing/web surfing, then no--C2D would be a waste. But if you want to do things like media encoding/converting, and playing games, then yes, I would highly suggest going C2D. The 4200+ is fine for games as long as you have a good video card--I have a 4400+ and it plays any game out there with no problems.

I'd suggest the E6600 Core 2 Duo if you can afford it: Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail

If that's too pricey, then go with the E6300 (still a great processor): Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail

Aside from clock speed, the difference between the two is that the E6300 has a shared 2MB cache while the E6600 has twice as much--shared 4MB cache. The more L2 cache the better. But since the AMD CPU you were looking at is comparable in price to the E6300, you might as well go with the E6300 C2D instead of the 4200+ because the C2D's are far superior. I love AMD, but I can't deny that.

I think if you want to build a new system for $700, then you might as well go with the E6300. It overclocks very well--a lot of people online have reported getting it to the clock speed of the E6600 on stock cooling (most actually get to 2.6GHz from 1.86--which is quite impressive). Of course you'd need the right motherboard to properly overclock it.

onekid · #5 (**permalink**) 03-01-2007, 01:07 AM

ok this is my new setup...

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=E6300
cpu

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-975XPV2
mother board

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=C3D-X13XT5
video card

http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=D2-1G533A
ram x2

+ one 160g and one 80g hard drive
and ofcource a dvd burner...

with this set up will i have a good over clocking potential?

guyladouche · #6 (**permalink**) 03-01-2007, 04:25 AM

I can't tell much because the motherboard you linked is shown as "not available." Can't answer if it's a good motherboard or has any overclocking abilities.

That video card also sucks--the x1300 and x1600 series cards both used the same video chipset, and it sucked--those cards are not very good performers. If you want to go ATI, go no lower than x1800 series, but preferably x1900 or x1950. If you're going to go Nvidia Geforce, do not go lower than 7600, but preferably go with 7900 series.

That RAM still sucks. As I mentioned, go with a good brand of RAM--Corsair, Mushkin, or OCZ. Those are pretty mainstream and very good. Stay clear of Corsair's ValueSelect RAM.

Good luck with the build.

onekid · #7 (**permalink**) 03-02-2007, 12:41 AM

eWiz.com Asus P5B-E LGA775/ Core 2 Duo/ P965/ SATA2/ RAID/ IEEE1394/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

this is the one i am thinking of getting(moher board) but if this isnt good plz send me a link to a good one for under 160$ that will give me a good over clocking capability.

and heres another one iwas thinking of getting eWiz.com Foxconn 975X7AA-8EKRS2H LGA775/ Dual-Core/ 975X/ DDR2/ SATA2/ A&2GbE Motherboard

and as a video card, i was thinging of getting this
eWiz.com XFX nVidia GeForce 7600GT 256MB 2DVI/HDTV PCI-Express Video Card

or this one
eWiz.com Biostar nVidia GeForce 7600GT 256MB 2DVI/HDTV PCI-Express Video Card

or this but its a lil bit more $
eWiz.com XFX nVidia GeForce 7600GT 256MB 590MHz 2DVI/HDTV PCI-Express Video Card

im ordering my computer tomorrow and i reeeeeeeely need to know this~!

guyladouche · #8 (**permalink**) 03-02-2007, 03:31 AM

That motherboard looks very good--and it seems to have quite a few overclocking features--I don't know if it overclocks well, but given the price, and the options in the BIOS, I'd be surprised if it didn't overclock well. But overclocking stability is also very much dependent on the RAM you have--if you don't have good RAM, don't expect a good, stable overclock.

Those video cards are much better than the x1600 you originally posted--but I haven't had any experience with any of those brands (XFX or Biostar). I've heard of Biostar, but not XFX. But either of those should be fine.

With some decent RAM, it looks like you'll have a great computer. Hope it's fun and hope all works out well! Have you thought of upgrading the CPU heatsink/fan? You might want to do that if you want to overclock your CPU--but that can be taken care of later.

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