New case compatible with mobo? - Page 3

guyladouche · #31 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 12:47 AM

If the motherboard has PCI-E x16 slots, it will work with any PCI-E x16 gfx card. That's not the issue. Make sure to get the correct power supply--one that states it has a power connector for a PCI-E x16 graphics card.

elhomo · #32 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 01:30 AM

Well I was planning on getting this psu(Newegg.com - Tagan Black TG480-U1 480W Power Supply - Retail) and it says it has one PCI-E connector, and it meets the requirements of the gfx card too.

elhomo · #33 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 05:42 PM

Also, I was wondering if there is a better processor than the C2D. I would like to stick with intel, but if there is a fast single-core made by AMD, please tell me. I thought that the c2d would double the speed, but I found out it really was only good for multi-tasking. Could you please recommend a good, fast processor. Preferable LGA 775 skt.

guyladouche · #34 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 06:06 PM

I thought I said this before, but it must have been in a different thread.

It is no longer proper to compare speeds of processors by looking at the raw clock speed of the processors. This is because there are many different architectures of processors, and some architectures are more efficient than others, so those can get more done in one clock cycle.

Unless you want to pay the same amount for an AMD fx extreme edition single-core CPU which will not perform as fast as the C2D E6600, the C2D is the fastest processor out now for mainstream computers. You could go with an AMD opteron single-core CPU, but they are exorbitantly expensive (upwards of $1k) and don't really perform much faster than a C2D that is $800 cheaper. The fact that the clock speed of, say the E6300 is 1.86 GHZ is lower when compared to, say, my 2.2 GHz AMD x2 4400+, does not mean that the C2D is slower--on the contrary, it's as fast and probably faster (though much depends on the RAM as well, but I won't go into that). It's not like comparing a 1.5 GHz P4 to a 2.0 GHz P4 that used the same architecture. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Believe me, if you go C2D E6600, that's the best deal you will probably find, and will likely be faster than anything you'll need in my opinion. My friend and I built our current computers at the same time about four months ago--I went with the one that is listed under my signature of my posts, and he went with a C2D E6600. The clock speed of the processor is only 0.2 GHz more than mine, but it performs so much higher because of the more efficient architecture.

There are very few affordable single-core proecssors out now that will exceed the performance of a dual core system. Even if you disabled one of the cores in the Bios, the system will likely still outperform most of the single-core cpu's out now, aside from the "extreme editions" of Intel and AMD--that's not surprising. But as a warning, those extreme edition CPU's tend to use A LOT of power and generate A LOT of heat--unless you are going to go with something along the lines of a very high power supply and water cooling, I'd steer clear of those.

So C2D E6600 is a great and fast processor. And it's quite affordable. If you want to go dual core, go either C2D or AMD's x2 processors socket AM2--don't bother with socket 939 (mine is 939, but AM2 systems are just as cheap but newer). Don't go with core duo or pentium-d processors--that would be a waste if you're building a new computer.

Well, unless you have the tons of extra cash sitting around, hopefully I've convinced you to get a C2D. If you don't believe me, look up some benchmarks or other forums--here's a google result of the E6600 vs fx-70 (which is AMD's fastest single-core fx CPU) core 2 duo E6600 vs fx-70 - Google Search
notice that the first hit (another forum) says hands-down the E6600 is much faster regardless of the fact that it's an AMD forum.

And make sure you really think that you won't be taking advantage of a dual-core computer. I thought I'd never see a difference or spend money on one, but since using it, I can't imagine going back to a single-core computer, even if it's a faster processor.

elhomo · #35 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 10:26 PM

Would the e6600 be compatible with this mobo?Newegg.com - ECS 945P-A (1.1) ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

**Ash** · #36 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 10:30 PM

That would not be compatible.

You need a Core Duo [with BIOS upgrade] or Core 2 Duo motherboard to use a Core-series CPU.

elhomo · #37 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 10:37 PM

Are there any DX10 compatible vid cards better than the 8800s?
I would like to spend around $300-400. PCI-e would be the best for me. Also could you recommend a mobo with PCI-e slots and C2D/P4 compatibility.

guyladouche · #38 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 01:25 AM

If you click on "specifications" on the newegg website, it will list compatible processors.

The 8800 is the only DX10 graphics card out right now. But really, aside from the fact that it has a fast core and memory speed, I'd not bother with the fact that it's DX10 for now. Current games are not written optimized for DX10--they're optimized for DX9. Sure, future games probably will be, but for now, the only one I know of is Crysis, and that's not even released yet. Might as well save your money for now and get a 7900gt or x1950pro, and see how the technology proves itself when the games are released. I wouldn't jump into anything just yet.

elhomo · #39 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 01:33 AM

Will DX10 be a lot better than DX9? Will prices of DX9 cards go down due to DX10? Lastly, will there be another way to get DX10 other than vista?

guyladouche · #40 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 01:58 AM

No way to know yet if DX10 will be "better" than DX9. For all we know it could have tons of bugs in it for quite some time--no way to know. The price of DX9 cards will almost definitely go down once DX10 cards are released--another good reason to hold off if you can.

As far as I know, DX10 is only distributed to systems that have Windows Vista. But really, I wouldn't get excited over it yet. Likely games will be like Call of Duty 2--built for one version of DX, but compatible with previous versions as well. I wouldn't worry about a thing.

elhomo · #41 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 02:06 AM

Will the voltage on this set of RAM(Newegg.com - OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail) work with this mobo(Newegg.com - ABIT AW9D ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail) Also, would you recommend a psu for SLI 7900GT's.

guyladouche · #42 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 05:33 AM

Yeah, it'll work.

For a PSU, definitely no less than 600w for SLI--as far as brands go, I've only used Antec. I've had no problems, but I generally don't do anything that requires a great powerful power supply. Antec's fine, but perhaps other people know of better brands.

elhomo · #43 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 06:28 AM

This mobo Newegg.com - Intel BLKDG965SSCK Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM has on board video. Would it be possible to put on a 7900GT and later on a 8800?

guyladouche · #44 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 06:36 AM

Theoretically, yes, you could use any SINGLE pci-e video card. However, it's not SLI, so the dual video card option is out.

However, this is an Intel brand board, and they tend not to be so great. Plus, it's a micro-ATX board--very small--and doesn't have much as far as options go. Plus smaller boards have a tendency to heat up more (less space to dissipate heat).

I'd strongly advise against getting this board. It's also rather expensive for what it offers. The other board you mentioned a couple posts ago is way way way better and is only ~$60 or so more.

elhomo · #45 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 03:45 PM

Whne I looked at the reviews for the first board, it said it wasn't SLI compatible. Is that true? If it isn't SLI compatible, could you recommend a SLI compatible board for around $100-150.

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